Niclas Hedhman @niclas@angrytoday.com

@freemo

Ah! So the "I was just following orders, to avoid being punished."-mentality.

Yeah, you might be right. But it also means that "most admins are ok with defederation" and by taking that stance, they assign themselves into a life in ever smaller islands (as you said).

Self-inflicted, or suicide, by "playing it safe".

@dusnm

@freemo

Maybe we have just bred a couple of generations of whiners, who are unable to handle inconvenience, debate and basic philosophy.

I am sure you know the
Hard Times -> Good Men -> Good Times -> Weak Men -> Hard Times.

@dusnm

@freemo

To me it sounds like you are making the assumption that most admins want go down this path, but you started with what most of us (admins) don't want. I fail to see how both can be true at the same time.

Do you mean that admins who are anti-defederation will fold to user pressure? Rather than trust the "don't want those users anyway" attitude?

@dusnm

@freemo

Right, but doesn't that mean that there will be one larger cluster of people who don't defederate and numerous islands of people who are in their respective preferred "safe space". Isn't that Ok?

I want the bazaar and the pub, but you might want your living room.

Just curious.

@dusnm

@elonmusk
Needs more LEDs!!
@TechNews

@Pwnallthethings
Elon: "Piece of cake. I am confident that I can whip up a phone brand with 10 models while solving world peace and ending hunger."
<3 days later>
"Oh, nothing I can steal? Look over there, I am confident that..."

@dusnm

I tend to agree... Is there really a problem?

If "most think that defederation is not wanted", doesn't that mean that most are not defederated by definition?

And those who wants to be outside that larger cluster have all their rights to do so...

Maybe I am missing something important here.

@freemo

@KiKi88 When I went to school there was one kid who only had thumb and ring finger, which had warped 90 degrees and formed like a crab claw.
He used it to electrocute himself with 16000 volts (train's power lines) and survived, more weird than ever before with almost all muscles in one leg gone and whole body looked like a chess board.

@harshad

You shouldn't try to sleep while you are driving, even if you have travel plans for next day... 😂

@arturo182