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@CobaltVelvet

I am confused with the "communist" and "anarchist" claims, and wondering if you could explain a few things.

As an anarchist myself, I think that I have full control over my body, my mind and to benefit from my actions.

I think I have the right to engage in voluntary interactions with anyone I want.

I think that no one has the right to initiate aggression towards me.

I think owning things is a consequence of owning yourself and the fruits of your labor.

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@CobaltVelvet

I think I should be free to pursue my life in any way I want without anyone else forcing anything upon me. People can reject interacting with me, can decline trading, can disallow me on their property, and so forth.

Do you agree with this? If not, what is it in that list that is objectionable and why?

If you agree; How can you then square that with any socialist ideology, since it has at its core those are built upon forceful redistribution of wealth. Theft.

Honestly curious.

@niclas only selfish libertarians see redistribution of wealth as theft. what i build is not for my ego and personal profit. if i earned more than enough i would be glad to see it redistributed as fairly as possible. society built me and i cannot exist in vacuum

@CobaltVelvet IF I don't give, and someone else take it, then it is theft. It is against my will.

And since you can't have people walking around and taking anything they want, you will end up with some people having that power, and you are now in a society with RULERS, and "AN-Archy" is an exact definition "No Rulers".

I don't mind your redistribution of wealth per se, only the "by force" part.

@niclas how did you get what is to be redistributed? thru the good and fair capitalism? lmao.

then i'm an authoritarian communist for you ; no patience for greed while ppl are homeless and begging for healthcare. and no patience for those who are too busy worrying about their personal privilege to care about others

@CobaltVelvet

Alright. So I will remain confused why there are people claiming both the "anarchist" and the "socialist/communist" label at the same time.

As an anarchist, I don't mind at all that you have a communist society/village/town/region. I just don't think that it can succeed, and I would prefer to not participate and simply go live elsewhere.

Good Luck!

@niclas as an anarchist, i won't be free while a landlord owns my home, while a boss owns the means of production, while healthcare isn't free and universal, etc. it's actually quite simple when you don't assume those to be acquired or irrelevant. my communism is the infrastructure of anarchism - and if it's easier on the privileged it's not anarchism

@Hesperion

Thanks... Interesting read, but I interpret the WIkipedia article that he was trying to satisfy the "Authoritarian Socialists" (IMHO, that's the only type in practice) that "authority" isn't really necessary, albeit flip-flopping on his on view about that.

My gift back;

youtube.com/watch?v=s4XcbM6nkB

@CobaltVelvet

@niclas @Hesperion im not watching this. im retching just from the thumbnail and description. if you're going to argue for private property over absolute bullshit may i tell you right now to go fuck yourself out of my mentions

@niclas @Hesperion as an authoritarian socialist i will take you r toothbrush

@CobaltVelvet

Nice attitude there. Is rudeness common and popular in your circles? Together with echo chambers and not allowing oneself to listen and understanding alternative viewpoints?

Just curious.

@Hesperion

@niclas @Hesperion dude i was learning about the capitalist viewpoints when i was a teenager. its not your little video thats going to show me the true wisdom of private property. i treat it like i would any other rancid ideology that has justified the horrors of capitalism so far and would leave me for dead the minute i'm not a good investment. you're arguing with blood on your hands and i have no time to be 'friendly' with you. dont expect it

@CobaltVelvet

And 200 million dead under socialist rule is not "blood on your hands", just because "not done right, next time..." argument?

@Hesperion

@niclas @Hesperion lol. what could this even mean. 'sharing resources kills people' and other things capitalists will tell themselves with a straight face

@niclas @Hesperion i would enjoy rage tho i dont know it much. i am thinking of doing an authoritarian violence on you right now, ragelessly. of course im not going to spend my minimum wages on you but you get the idea

@niclas @Hesperion since you havent blocked me yet, let me add its kind of extra funny coming from a guy whos pictured angry at angry today dot com

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